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Weather Bug's Jay Hoffman letters
(Caution: This is not the
opinion of Pensacola Network, numerous other savvy technicians on the
web, or former WeatherBug users and victims. When reading, please consider
the original source of the material.)
Dear Tony:
I’ve noticed that your site is down for updating. On the WeatherBug
page, I think you need to check a few of the links you listed about us. High Point University-
there is no reference to WeatherBug anymore.
PCHell specifically says WeatherBug is NOT spyware:
Is WeatherBug Spyware?
According to their website, Weatherbug is not spyware. It does not
monitor, collect data or 'spy' on its user base, however the program is
considered Adware since the free version is ad-supported. You can read
more about why Weatherbug is not considered spyware by
clicking here.
In fact, Weatherbug sent me the following email explaining their
position on spyware and why WeatherBug is not considered spyware.
Kephyr.com:
WeatherBug
Overview
WeatherBug displays the current weather conditions. WeatherBug is ad
supported and shows banners and pop up advertisements. There is also an
ad-free version, WeatherBug Pro.
Source
WeatherBug have bundled MySearch Bar. Blubster 2.50 is currently
bundling WeatherBug.
You can read a few reviews about WeatherBug
here.
It should be emphasized that
WeatherBug is Adware, not spyware. Read the vendor's statement
here.
(emphasis added by me, Jay Hoffman Manager, WeatherBug Customer
Support)
Your 3rd link is to an old techtv article:
Uninstall Adware, Use Multiple Browsers, Leo's Favorite Email Client
Answers to live calls
from the March 19 show.
By Leo Laporte
Call No. 1: Uninstall
Adware
Dave from Abingdon, Md., called on the TechTV Netcam Network to say he
wants to completely uninstall WeatherBug, which keeps creating pop-ups.
He already ran Spybot -- Search & Destroy.
The creators of WeatherBug
claim it doesn't contain spyware and
have an explicit
privacy policy
to back up the claim.
However, you will see ads in the ad-supported free version.
Any time you install ad-supported software, you install Adware,
including an Adware server to support the ads.
The uninstaller included with WeatherBug should remove it completely.
(emphasis added by me, Jay Hoffman Manager, WeatherBug Customer
Support)
Another link:
What Is The Adware Gator? Weatherbug Explained
Does NOT have WeatherBug anywhere in the article except in the
title??? Please do a CTRL F and type in weatherbug to check the
article.
The next link does not appear to be valid anymore.
The annoyances.org links refer to uninstalling. As I’ve previously
mentioned, our newest versions do NOT require exiting the program
first. So it’s a simple click in add/remove programs to remove it. The
last postings in that forum appear to be almost a year ago, from last
fall and relate to uninstalling.
The next link does NOT call us spyware, again:
About WeatherBug
The free version of WeatherBug is an Adware that displays ads to your
computer. On the EULA is says: The Software is provided for your use, as
described above, free of charge, and is supported by advertising
revenue. Separate, "ad-free" versions of the Software are available for
download by accredited schools for use on in-school computers and by all
users by subscribing to WeatherBug Pro. The program will also install
My Search on your computer, which is
Adware as well.
And the last link is the same as the 2nd last.
I am not sure how these refer to WeatherBug as spyware. Please
understand, there ARE forums and bulletin boards where people, many of
whom have the same misperception we are hoping to address on your site,
incorrectly list us as spyware. Whether they are competitors or those
supporting our competitors, I don’t know. We are working aggressively
to correct any misperceptions that may remain. In the meantime, SPYBOT,
AD-AWARE, SPYKILLER,
PEST PATROL, WEB WASHER, SPYSWEEPER and almost every other MAJOR,
REPUTABLE spyware detection program do NOT list us- because we are not
spyware.
Thanks again for your updates. I hope that the new website will
address this and also give equal space to the fact that 2 of the largest
venture capital firms and the largest instant messenger program in the
world (AOL IM) are partnering with us. Clearly, the folks who are
holding onto the outdated and WRONG belief that we are spyware are in
the distinct minority.
Sincerely,
Jay Hoffman
Manager, WeatherBug Customer Support
April 12, 2004
Response from WeatherBug
Dear Tony:
One of our millions of WeatherBug users wrote to us concerning some
incorrect information regarding WeatherBug on your site:
Pensacola Network article
Please allow me to go point by point through your article:
First and foremost, WeatherBug is absolutely not spyware. You make
reference to Ad-Aware, a well known anti-spyware program that mentions
something about the year 2000. Since that was 4 years ago, I am
guessing things have changed significantly.
Not ONLY does Ad-Aware, along with Spybot, Pest Patrol, Web Washer,
and every other well known anti-spyware program NOT list WeatherBug, but
we actually give a free download to Ad-Aware 6.0 and other popular
programs because we want our 30 million customers who’ve downloaded
WeatherBug to protect themselves against spyware.
You can view our spyware FAQ here:
http://ww3.weatherbug.com/aws/defaultx.asp?cid=306
where you will also find the links to some of the top anti-spyware
programs. PLEASE tell your customers to run an update and check spybot,
ad-aware 6.0, pest patrol, webwasher, spysweeper or any of the other
well respected programs to see we are NOT listed because we are NOT
spyware.
Tony, in addition to 30 million customers who have downloaded and
used the program, about 7000 schools, and dozens of top universities
depend on the WeatherBug program and have WeatherBug weather stations
installed on their campuses. We were chosen by the Department of
Homeland Security to serve as their live weather resource. Why?
Because, God forbid in the event that someone tried to release toxins in
the air, we are the only company in the United States capable of
providing live weather information from 7000 local sources, not merely
the closest airport as some of our competitors can. What good is
airport weather if an attack of dangerous toxins isn’t released right
near the airport? Exactly why the Dept. of Homeland Security chose
WeatherBug.
The educational software that we provide to these thousands of
schools won a Smithsonian Laureate for our CEO, Bob Marshall. We are
much more than merely a piece of software. We have helped thousands of
teachers make weather, science and statistics fun and meaningful as that
prestigious award clearly shows.
It is not an understatement to say that million of people rely on
WeatherBug every single day.
Just a few weeks ago we were featured on NBC Nightly News with Tom
Brokaw in regards to the tragic water taxi accident in Baltimore:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4467076
Click the video link to learn a little more about how WeatherBug
might have helped prevent such a tragedy by providing LIVE weather, not
weather data that is half an hour or more old.
In addition, we have dozens of testimonials from our customers who
were alerted to tornados, flash floods, etc. by their WeatherBugs well
in advance of any government warnings. It is not an exaggeration to say
our program literally has saved lives. We were featured in Women’s World
Magazine 2 months ago for just such a life-saving event.
As for your concern that the program takes up too much bandwidth,
your concerns are certainly legitimate given your IT background. Below
is some additional information on the bandwidth requirements:
Background (when your WeatherBug display is minimized to be next to
the time in the bottom right hand of your computer screen):
Makes weather data update every 1 hour.
For both background and foreground, WeatherBug makes alert
information requests every 5 minutes with total data size(in/out) 250B,
and makes forecast information requests every 2 hours, with data size
250B.
Each weather data request (in/out): 375B.
Each ad banner may consume 10KB.
The bandwidth consumption is:
Foreground first 1 minute: 1.93kb/sec
Foreground after 1 minute or Background: 0.01kb/sec.
All the background and branding images are cached. If the user clicks
on a Tab, it will load tiny Web pages and ads may rotate, this may
increase the bandwidth in the short term, but after that it will use the
same bandwidth as described above.
Since most of the users bring WeatherBug to the foreground for only a
short time, it should not cause any bandwidth issues with the network.
Tony, you are certainly entitled to tell your customers that they
should not be running any programs on their computer that could
potentially use ANY bandwidth without their boss’s permission. (Although
many IT professionals have told us they rely on WeatherBug for storm
warnings because they don’t have windows in their offices and would not
have sufficient time to back up data or shut down machines by the time
the first thunderclap was heard).
Our concern as one of the most popular programs on the internet
today, is that some people could read your comments and mistakenly
believe we contain spyware or a virus, both of which are absolutely,
100% false. While you did not outright state it as such, it was
certainly implied when you said the virus and spyware warranties would
be voided if they had WeatherBug on their systems.
I thank you for the time you’ve allowed me to address these
allegations and hope that in the future you and any of your customer who
have questions will feel free to contact me through our support
department at
www.weatherbug.com/help or personally
at
jay@weatherbug.com
I would appreciate you posting as much of this reply as possible and
encourage any visitor to your site to contact me or my team should they
have any concerns about weather or the WeatherBug program.
Most sincerely,
Jay Hoffman
Manager, WeatherBug Customer Support
April 13, 2004
Answer from WeatherBug
Tony,
Thanks
for your reply and I’m glad to hear you will post our comments. Two
final points: regarding connectivity, WeatherBug is set by default to
connect when the user first connects to the internet- obviously on a
dial-up this could slow down the initial log on. Therefore, they can
click the OPTIONS button on the main screen and click Preferences tab
and UNcheck the first box that has WeatherBug automatically dial the
internet when the user connects. They can also set WeatherBug in that
screen not to automatically open to full screen but only to open in the
system tray where it takes up less bandwidth.
Installing WeatherBug should not void any warranties regarding spyware
or viruses since we are virus-free and every reputable spyware detection
company out there; Ad-Aware, Spybot, Web Washer, SpySweeper, Pest Patrol
and a dozen others that my departments regularly tests, do no list us as
anything other than advertising-supported software, which we are. In
addition, keep your eyes peeled for a very major press announcement
tomorrow about a partnership we are entering with one of the largest
internet companies in the world, due out tomorrow. If you have any
doubts that we are not what we claim, when you see who we are partnering
with tomorrow, I hope any questions will be answered.
Thanks
again for your time and for allowing ‘the other side’ of this issue to
be heard. As one of the most popular web properties in the world in a
number of categories, we know that millions rely on us every single day
and want to insure that the correct information is getting out there
about our product.
Thanks!
Jay
Hoffman
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